Seen & Unseen Aloud: Googling, Ukraine and dragons

Did the Google impulse started in the Garden of Eden? Ukraine visit, and contemporary dragon slaying.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

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This week week Elizabeth Wainwright asks whether the Google impulse started in the Garden of Eden - to know all immediately; Mark Meynell visits Ukraine and tells us a bit about "normal" life there; James Cary considers what the dragon-slaying St Michael might have to say about our culture's battle between good and evil.

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6 October 2025

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The profound and profane at sporting events, plus cafe time

New episodes: listen to articles by Jonathan Rowlands, Graham Tomlin, and Joshua Nurcombe-Pike.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

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Jota commemorated, Liverpool.

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In this week's episode, Jonathan Rowlands explores the relationship between trauma and sacraments as he visits Anfield; Graham Tomlin asks whether a loss of an "ultimate" is the reason behind the recent behaviour at the Ryder Cup and Joshua Nurcombe-Pike explores the big thinking that goes on in the midst of cafe culture.