Seen & Unseen Aloud: new episode

Humility and leadership - a weird but essential combo. Plus the outliers.

Natalie Garrett

Natalie produces and narrates The Seen & Unseen Aloud podcast. She's an Anglican minister and a trained actor.

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Pope Francis kisses the foot of a woman inmate of the Rebibbia prison.

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This week we think about leadership and humility as unlikely but essential bedfellows: Roger Bretherton exhorts us to look out for the outliers who bring something unique to the group; Graham Tomlin learns about humble leadership from Pope Francis and Elizabeth Wainwright calls out for a new style of leadership in a year of local, national and international elections.

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Re-enchanting

6 August 2025

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Re-Enchanting Live: why the tide of faith is turning

Recorded at Wildfires

Nick Jones

Nick is the senior editor of Seen & Unseen.

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About this episode

Co-hosts Belle Tindall and Justin Brierley are joined by Bishop Graham Tomlin in a live audience edition of the podcast - recorded at Wildfires festival. Together they’ll explore why a ’surprising rebirth’ of belief in God seems to be underway in the West and how the church can engage those coming through its doors once again. If you found this conversation interesting, Seen & Unseen, the creators of Re-Enchanting, offers thousands of articles exploring how the Christian faith helps us understand the modern world.