The Traitors, Apple AI, and the Church and State divide

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This week we delve, with Jonathan Rowlands, into the world of BBC's hit TV show The Traitors; Jenny Lander questions Apple AI's morality and Jack Chisnall asks why at this Inauguration Day, the 'Church and State' separation just can't hold.

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23 January 2025

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Les Issacs on re-enchanting the streets

Season 6 starts with the Street Pastors founder talking integrity and caring for clubbers.

Nick Jones

Nick is the senior editor of Seen & Unseen.

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Rev Les Isaac OBE is founder of Ascension Trust.

Les came to national attention in 2022 when his message about integrity and the common good at the Parliamentary Prayer Breakfast set in motion a chain of events that led to the resignation of Boris Johnson in the following days.

Les is best known as the pioneer of the Street Pastors movement. Every weekend Street Pastors provide care and support to late night clubbers in nearly 250 cities and towns across the UK, a story Les tells in his book ‘Faith On The Streets’. Les joins Justin and Belle to talk about re-enchanting the pubs, clubs and streets of our cities.

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